Aug 14, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07
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#41
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]
Profession: D/A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof Of Black
Guys, dont buy ANY armbraces.
I bought some, without knowing about the exploit.
I'm banned now, Permanent.
~Prof.
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When did you buy the armbraces?
Did you pay a very low amount for them?
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Aug 14, 2007, 02:08 PM // 14:08
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#42
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<3 Ecto
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Originally Posted by acidic
put out an announcement and ban anyone that trade armbraces simple as that. Don't waste man-hours sifting on tracking just let Darwin do the work and perm bans with no appeals plz.
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Yah an annoucement on log in screen warning of purchasing amrbraces would be nice.
I am amazed people are hurrying to make a few hundred platinum and risk losing their accounts permanently.
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Aug 14, 2007, 03:27 PM // 15:27
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#43
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Desert Nomad
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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
Yah an annoucement on log in screen warning of purchasing amrbraces would be nice.
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Really? Well, I think exactly the opposite, the solution is DELETE all threads about the duplication thing, and never announce officially a thing about it ever. That will help to make people forget this faster. Threads in fan forums exponentially multiply the SPAM in-game about armbraces.
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Aug 14, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39
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#44
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Site Legend
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I'm buying and selling them like hotcakes. Easy money.
No risk, no profit.
Ban? perhaps
Do I care? nah, game is past dead anyway.
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Old Skool '05
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Aug 14, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57
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#45
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: TN
Guild: Naga Stole Mah Bike [OhNo]
Profession: R/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
I'm buying and selling them like hotcakes. Easy money.
No risk, no profit.
Ban? perhaps
Do I care? nah, game is past dead anyway.
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Wow, even if you don't care why would you post it here seemingly flaunting how you don't care if you get banned . . . . .
: : Have fun being banned.
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Aug 14, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57
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#46
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: @ Sensation Black
Guild: Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
When did you buy the armbraces?
Did you pay a very low amount for them?
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I bought them the day before yesterday, noone knew about the ban, or well, told me about it then.
I bought 6 of them for 50ecto each. I'd say, thats not an outrageous low price.
Btw, lol @ malice with ur pointless comments.
~Prof.
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03
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#47
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: @ Sensation Black
Guild: Death is Energy [DIE] ~ Raining fame alliance
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
Prof of Black: If you think you are innocent, appeal. If you are innocent, I'm sure they will reinstate you.
One thing to learn from all this: Greed is Bad. I learned this back when I was a noob and lost 4 Black Dye (back when Black Dye was worth over 10,000 gold) by being greedy and trying to sell it to a player rather than get a little less from the Trader. I got scammed and learned a valuable lesson:
Greed is bad. If you see a deal that's "Too good to be true", it probably is. Be suspicious, be cautious, and look up the value of everything before you trade it. That's the best way to keep from being scammed, banned or anything else bad happening to you.
Peace.
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True, Greed is Bad. I will remember that if I get back to Guild Wars.
I think I've made enough money for ever now.
Yes, by trading, no scams :P
~Prof.
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:12 PM // 17:12
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#48
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Site Legend
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wow lol you're all like frightened deers staring into the headlights of an on coming car.
I posted the other post to prove a point..I won't get banned, you're all crying over nothing.
Check back with me in a week, I'll still have my account.
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Old Skool '05
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:20 PM // 17:20
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#49
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: TN
Guild: Naga Stole Mah Bike [OhNo]
Profession: R/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Malice Black
wow lol you're all like frightened deers staring into the headlights of an on coming car.
I posted the other post to prove a point..I won't get banned, you're all crying over nothing.
Check back with me in a week, I'll still have my account.
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Well why don't you go all out run a bot that dupes items and spams trade in the local chat while scamming people and typing racial slurs in caps?
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32
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#50
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Site Legend
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Because I'm not stupid.
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Old Skool '05
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:39 PM // 17:39
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#51
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Originally Posted by You can't see me
Bart, I played Runescape for 2+ years, and owned one of the items you're talking about. Your information is a tad incorrect.
These rare items were a christmas drop that were tradebale, and just became more expensive because people were destroying them and there was no way to get them. There was no legitamte reason to ban people or remove them. It wasn't a bug that they were tradeable, and not a bug they would never drop again. They're like the asian minipets.
~Edit, I AGREE that a lot of online gamers get rich by exploiting the exploited, your idea is correct.
But back on topic, yes, it's a very bad idea to buy or sell armbraces now. Even if you trade a duped one in for a tormented item, you're still going to be traced if you held it, and the tormented item has the code that was given from the NPC for the code of the armbrace, so you're still traceable.
I personally bought a tormented sheild today (For the normal amount, I did not buy it from someone who was trying to get rid of thier items for a cheap price), but before I found out about the duping. I'm debating selling it, though the seller swears that his armbrace was legit, even though he bought it from someone else two days ago.
I don't want to be banned or risk it vanishing on me, that's a lot of money.
However, there's not much chance it's an illegal item, being most armbraces that were duped were cleared from all the bans of the stack traders.
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dont worry man your safe, gaile said they only looking for ppl who either duped, or bought them at ridiculously low prices, therefore if you bought at 100k+40e your fine
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40
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#52
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Academy Page
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: TN
Guild: Naga Stole Mah Bike [OhNo]
Profession: R/E
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Sure
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44
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#53
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: Elite
Profession: R/Me
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I've never heard so much crap in all my life, there are armbraces in the game and you could get banned for buying one or two LOL,. ive never heard so much bull... millions of players dont' know what's happened in the last few days , log on and buy and get banned, if this happened A.net don't deserve to run a game.
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Aug 14, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52
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#54
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wisconsin
Profession: Rt/Mo
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No you wont get banned for buying one or two... but there were people selling stacks of them... and I feel bad because I just know that one or two people are going to get banned because they just thought they were getting a good deal and did not realize about the exploit... and that sucks.
I don't feel like it should be my responsiblity to make sure that what I buy is legit and I shouldn't get punished for buying something that isn't if I have no way of knowing otherwise. That's the only thing that bothers me about the whole situation.
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Aug 14, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00
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#55
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Exactly as Natuxatu said. People who bought them didn't neccessarily know about the exploit. The only people who should be banned are the people who dupped them (as it violates the "don't use exploits in the game code" or " don't try to dupe items" part of the EULA) and were selling like 100s of them. The sellers and makers of these things should get in trouble, not the ignorant masses of the common GW player who didn't hear about this.
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Aug 14, 2007, 06:12 PM // 18:12
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#56
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jan 2007
Guild: HdCr
Profession: W/Mo
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Originally Posted by KillaKarl
dont worry man your safe, gaile said they only looking for ppl who either duped, or bought them at ridiculously low prices, therefore if you bought at 100k+40e your fine
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The problem is, WTF is the market now? How do I know the guy I'm buying a "nonduped" armbrace is actually one that hasn't been duped? He could say it is, but what recourse do I have? I don't think it's fair to completely shut down all trade on them. Yet, I have no idea what the actual market value is regardless of whether the item is duped or one I worked very hard to achieve.
And why should I pay $100k + 50E when I don't have any assurance that it's legitimate or that duped items will be removed and leave only valid items? Duped items still work. Can still trade them in for tormented items.
Sorry, but the only way to restore a normal marketplace is to let it play out. And that means, buying them at 10k until the stock of dupes dwindles and the price goes back up.
It sucks for those that worked so hard to get valid armbraces, but what else can you do? You can't ban everyone and you can't ban those that see 10k armbrace in trading posts, have no idea what-it-is-but-seems-hot-and-I-got-10k-so-I-might-as-well buy it.
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Aug 14, 2007, 06:20 PM // 18:20
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#57
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: In the clouds
Guild: [Sage]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos Theory Pvp
I've never heard so much crap in all my life, there are armbraces in the game and you could get banned for buying one or two LOL,. ive never heard so much bull... millions of players dont' know what's happened in the last few days , log on and buy and get banned, if this happened A.net don't deserve to run a game.
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Agreed. If I was at home I would probably buy a few of these armbraces. I wouldn't be stupid and buy a whole fricking stack, BUT If I did buy a stack I don't think I should be punished for doing so. I lay the blame on Anet. This is a HUGE fiasco. They should delete every single ambrace out of the game and just START OVER. Ya, I mean all of them. To those who got them "legit" I would say...
Look at the big picture and tell me what is worse. A few hundred people who have "legit" ambraces OR deleting thousands of illegitimate ambraces and saving the so-called game economy??
So if I go out and buy some of these duped ambraces why the hell should I be punished when Anet should have just removed them from the game and saved face in this whole mess?
Same thing happed way back in D2 with SoJ's. Someone duped them and introduced thousands into the game. I happen to be in a game when a guy cam in and started dumping them all over the dang ground. Now, should I be all high and mighty and say "those are probably duped and I shouldn't touch them" or should I be like "hells ya! free SoJ's when they are near impossible to find?" Well I went "hells ya" and picked up as many as I could. Was I greedy? You bet. But D2 really fostered and environment where unless you had SoJ's to trade with you just plain couldn't trade and couln't get better items.
so ya...Anet should lay in their own mess they made and I think its unfair to ban people for buying them. They should look at the log-in records that Gaile says are oh-so detailed and ban the people who duped in the first place.
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Aug 14, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22
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#58
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Lion's Arch Merchant
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Originally Posted by kooomar
Ok, quick post, maybe people will agree with this, STOP BUYING ARMBRACES. If anything, we should be protesting the people selling them for cheap to rid their account of them, not helping them. I agree, people with legit armbraces have it rough right now, and I fell absolutely terrible for you, but these "
WTB armbrace 50k, HAVE to stop.
Wait till anet figures out more action to take, or until more bans are issued, but by feeding these people purging themselves of armbraces, you are killing the market. Not just on armbraces, on everything.
I'm sure people will disagree with me, but it'd be comforting to know that some agree. I just hate seeing people that are ALMOST as bad as the dupers that are trying to buy for 10k. Please, just stop.
/my 2 bits
Koo Ooomar
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No, you are wrong. I'm not hurting myself. I'm getting shiny new weapons for CHEAP! I like them and they work like a charm. High end traders can't care for what I buy and how I buy it.
Does this hurt you? How?
I don't sell them back, and I look nicer thanks to them. If I score a few for 50K or 100K 20e or whatever, how am I hurting you?
I would be even happier if armbraces stay at this price so that anyone can buy them.
You cant ignore the fact that 100's or 1000's were introduced overnight, that has to have an impact in the "economy".
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Aug 14, 2007, 06:25 PM // 18:25
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#59
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: chinese food
Profession: N/Mo
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some oobs might of thought it was an opffhand(lol)
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Aug 14, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42
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#60
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Finland
Guild: Victory Via Valour
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Prof Of Black
Guys, dont buy ANY armbraces.
I bought some, without knowing about the exploit.
I'm banned now, Permanent.
~Prof.
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Then you just didn't buy "some", they just detect those who got clearly impossible high amount those like, 250 stack. This not mean that I don't trust you but sound very, very weird customer treatment to be true.
Last edited by Clord; Aug 14, 2007 at 06:46 PM // 18:46..
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